Cavalry Tactics: How close was close order?
[posted by Gavin Robinson, 8:30 am, 10 October 2012]
Writing about cavalry charges often uses the phrases ‘close order’ or ‘knee-to-knee’. But what do these actually mean, and how close can you keep charging horses? This post won’t necessarily answer these questions satisfactorily, but it will show that there are lots of different opinions in drill books and eyewitness accounts.
Francois de La Noue, The politicke and militarie discourses of the Lord de La Nouue, trans. Edward Aggas (London, 1588):
the Germaines exceede all other nations, because they seeme to bee not onely close, but even glewed each to other: which proceedeth of an ordinarie custome that they have to keepe alwaies in bodie, as having learned as well by naturall knowledge, as by profe, that the strong alwaies carie away the weake. Also the more to testifie that they sieldome fayle in this, whensoever they be broken, in their retire and flight they still remaine unseperate and joyned together (p. 200)
But when a troupe is set in a wing, although the good, which ordinarily are the smallest number, do march cheerely to the onset, yet the rest that are not so willing to bite, (which faine to bleede at the nose, to have a broken stiroppe, or to have their horse unshooed) doe staie behinde, so as within two hundred paces of waie, we shall see glasse windowes in that long file, & great breaches wil appeare therein, which greatly incourageth the enimie: and many times among an hundred horse, scarce 25. doe enter in (p. 188)
There’s obviously a double standard here because La Noue was arguing for the position that reiters in deep squadrons were better than lancers in single lines. I’ve already shown that his theory of shock was based on the fallacy that horses can be rigidly joined together. It would be wrong to cherry-pick either of these quotes to prove that close order was or wasn’t possible.
Gervase Markham, The souldiers accidence (London, 1625):
for you must know that a Troope of horse consisteth of Ranks and Files as well as a Company of foote, and having set file unto file close, that is Cuise unto Cuise, or knee unto knee (p. 47)
It is then to be understood, that in Horse-troopes there are but two sorts of Distances or Orders, eyther in Rankes or Fyles; That is, Close Order, and Open Order, Close order in Fyles, is Cuish to Cuish, or knee to knee, and Open order in Fyles, is six foote (which is accounted an Horse length): So Close order in Rankes, is to the Horses Crooper, or without Streete, and Open order is sixe foote, above which the Rankes must never open. And therefore that the Troop may March orderly and keepe their Distance truly (p. 55)
Markham isn’t very reliable, but this at least shows that the phrase ‘knee to knee’ was used in the 17th century. He doesn’t go into any more detail about exactly what it means, but the most likely meaning is that the troopers’ knees should be touching each other.
My notes don’t make it clear whether John Cruso’s Militarie instructions for the cavallrie (1632) said much about this, but he did say that ‘The principall strength of Cuirassiers consisteth in keeping themselves close serried together; for this the Germanes are commended.’ (p. 98). This could be derived from La Noue but it’s not a direct copy.
Robert Ward, Anima’dversions of warre (London, 1639) says almost exactly the same thing as Markham (p. 295). This could be because it’s true, or because of writers copying each other.
John Vernon, The young horse-man, or, The honest plain-dealing cavalier (Andrew Coe, London, 1644):
those troops that are to give the first charge being drawn up into battail as before, are to be at their close order, every left hand mans right knee must be close locked under his right hand mans left ham, as hath bin shown before. In this order they are to advance toward the Enemy with an easie pace, firing their Carbines at a convenient distance, always aiming at their Enemies brest or lower, because that pouder is of an elevating nature, then drawing neere the Enemy, they are with their right hands to take forth one of their Pistols out of their houlsters, and holding the lock up are most firing as before, always reserving on Pistoll ready charged, spann’d and primed in your houlsters, in case of a retreat as I have shown before, having thus fired the troops are to charge the Enemy in a full career, but in good order with their swords fastned with a Riband or the like unto their wrists, for feare of losing out of their hand, if they should chance to misse their blow, placing the pomell on their thigh, keeping still in their close order, close locked as before. (p. 43)
This is the most explicit and detailed description of close order in this period, but that’s the problem: it’s unique. As far as I know, no-one else writing in English in the first half of the 17th century said anything like this. That doesn’t automatically mean that it’s wrong, but it should at least be grounds for suspicion. I haven’t found an account of a civil war cavalry charge that matches Vernon’s prescription. A lot of this is because most accounts aren’t detailed enough. As I’ve already shown, we usually don’t know whether charges ended at the gallop (like Vernon says they should be) or not. But it could be significant that no eyewitness ever explicitly mentions firing during the charge. We know that Rupert at Edgehill and Byron at Roundway Down gave definite orders against it, but things are less clear for parliamentarian charges.
The other big mystery is what happens at the end of the charge. Vernon doesn’t say exactly what the cavalry are supposed to do when they get to the enemy. As they’ve already fired twice and are supposed to save their third shot for a retreat, this can’t be the mingled fire tactics that La Noue, Rupert and Byron advocated. Vernon doesn’t seem to want to use swords as shock weapons like lances: with the pommel resting on the thigh and the troopers locked tight together, the point probably isn’t going to reach the enemy. Ultimately, if both sides manage to do what Vernon wants then they have to crash into each other, and as we should all know by now that’s disastrous for both of them. Maybe he wants to intimidate the enemy into running away, but he doesn’t explicitly say that, and the emphasis on keeping hold of the sword suggests that Vernon was expecting close combat.
(Also I’ve only just noticed that Vernon’s book was printed by Andrew Coe. I don’t know exactly what significance that has, but it would be worth investigating.)
Sir Richard Bulstrode’s account of Edgehill said that Rupert ordered his cavalry ‘to march as close as possible, keeping their Ranks with Sword in Hand’ (Bulstrode, Memoirs, p. 81). He didn’t say exactly how close it was possible to march.
As usual, Cromwell’s writings aren’t much help. Two of his letters about Gainsborough mention ‘close order’ but don’t go into any detail about what it means (Abbot, i, pp. 243, 245; quoted in my Cromwell post). Be suspicious of any historian who does claim to know exactly what it means, especially if they appeal to John Vernon’s authority.
Richard Atkyns gives the best description of close order in his account of his charge against Heselrig’s lobsters at Roundway Down:
we advanced a full trot 3 deep, and kept in order; the enemy kept their station, and their right wing of horse being cuirassiers, were I’m sure five, if not six deep, in so close order, that Punchinello himself had he been there, could not have gotten in to them. All the horse on the left hand of Prince Maurice his regiment, had none to charge; we charging the very utmost man of their right wing; I cannot better compare the figure of both armies than to the map of the fight at sea, between the English and the Spanish Armadas, (only there was no half moon) for though they were above twice our numbers; they being six deep, in close order and we but three deep, and open (by reason of our sudden charge) we were without them at both ends (Young, ‘Praying Captain’, p. 58)
This implies that it was easier to keep in close order when defending, and that charging led to formations opening out.
There’s now a big gap in my knowledge as I haven’t looked at the later 17th century or early 18th century for a long time. We’ll pick up again with Major-General Warnery, whose treatise was published in England in 1798 but drew on the author’s experiences under Frederick the Great.
Warnery isn’t as explicit as Vernon but does seem to want very tight formations:
When it is reflected, what bruises a trooper is liable to in his legs, with the present suple boots, from the holsters, knees, carbines, scabbards, &c. of each other, when the squadron charges close and firm as it ought to do, to give it weight and effect. I think it will not be denied, that stiff boots, which will defend the trooper from such accidents, ought to be given him; they will at the same time enable him to charge closer in line, than they have ever been able to do since suple boots has been adopted (pp. 48-49)
I don’t think Warnery wants horses to crash into the enemy. Although he talks a lot about shock and weight, when he goes into more detail, it’s always about the sword point:
Since the lance has been rejected, the sword is, without contradiction, the queen of arms for the cavalry; and it is upon that alone, that they should depend in action, until the enemy is dispersed (p. 16)
The point of the sword is more advantageous than the edge, because with it you can reach your enemy at a greater distance than with the other, the smallest wound with it renders the wounded incapable of serving during the remainder of the action at least; it does not require so much force to give a dangerous wound with a thrust as with a cut (p. 16)
The troopers of the front rank raise their swords to the height of their faces, the arm extended in tierce, the point against the eyes of his enemy, and the hand a little turned, that the branch of guard of the sword may cover his own; they must raise themselves a little in the stirrups, the body forward, and aim to place a thrust with the point against the man or the horse opposed to him; in a word, he must do his best, either by thrusting or cutting, to disable his enemy; thus the shock or charge is soon finished (pp. 46-47)
Warnery doesn’t see the main effect of the charge as psychological:
It will easily be conceived what terrible blows must be given by two brave troopers who meet each other in the charge; many people are however of opinion, that the shock of two lines of cavalry never takes place, one always giving way before the other arrives to it; though this is most frequently the case, it is nevertheless an error to say, that always happens; at the battle of Guastala the shock was general: at Strigau likewise (p. 49)
Although the rest of the book implies that these ‘terrible blows’ are given with the sword, if Warnery gets his way then there has to be a big collision between horses. In his ideal charge, the cavalry are in such close order that the troopers’ legs are getting bruised, and neither side turns away, so there’s nowhere else for the horses to go but straight into each other (there’s also a lot of stuff about rear ranks adding weight to the shock and preventing horses in front from stopping, but I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt about that for now).
Some later British drill books disagreed with Warnery, saying that horses getting too close was a bad thing.
Instructions and Regulations for the Formations and Movements of the Cavalry (1799):
Any attempt to close the files at the instant of the charge, would only increase the intervals in a line, and tend to impede the free movement of each horse, who at no time requires to be more independent than when galloping at his utmost exertion; and every rub to right or left diminishes that effort in a degree. (p. 32)
Manual of drill for mounted rifle Volunteers or Volunteer irregular Cavalry (1863):
Any closing in or crowding at the instant of the charge must impede the horses and impair the effect, and must therefore be avoided. It is from the uniform velocity of the line that the greatest effect is produced (p. 100)
Both of these drill books were definitely talking about something called ‘shock’ but they said that it depended on velocity, not on a tight formation. They both insist that horses shouldn’t be rigidly joined together and that they need to move independently.
British practice in the First World War also seems to have been not to get too close. Farrier Sergeant Albert Turp of the Royal Dragoons described taking part in a charge against German infantry at Collezy in 1918:
We had of course been taught that a cavalry charge should be carried out in line six inches from knee to knee, but it didn’t work out like that in practice and we were soon a pretty ragged line of horsemen at full gallop. (Kenyon, ‘British Cavalry‘, p. 234)
Even the ideal was looser than what John Vernon recommended in the 17th century and was hard to achieve in practice. The aim seems to have been to ride through the enemy and stab them with the sword point on the way past. Sgt Turp continues:
I remembered my old training and the old sword exercise. As our line overrode the Germans I made a regulation point at a man on my offside and my sword went through his neck and out the other side. The pace of my horse carried my sword clear and then I took a German on my nearside, and I remember the jar as my point took him in the collarbone and knocked him over. (Kenyon, ‘British Cavalry’, p. 235)
There’s a controversial photo that may or may not show the Australian Light Horse charging at Beersheba in 1917. This shows a fairly loose formation. Although there are a some small bunches of horses galloping close to each other, there are big gaps between the groups and it’s hard to make out any straight ranks or files in the foreground.
This is just a small sample, but it shows a wide range of opinions from theorists and eyewitnesses about how close cavalry could and should get during a charge. I’m inclined to agree with the British Army view that if you can get horses into very close order it would be counterproductive. Galloping horses can trip over very easily. If one goes down, others are likely to trip over it. This can lead to a domino effect. The most famous example (at least in Britain) is the 1967 Grand National, when a huge pile-up at the 23rd fence allowed outsider Foinavon to win by default. The best footage of the accident has been taken down from YouTube because of a copyright claim, but this is the British Pathe film, taken from a different angle (about 1:30):
You definitely wouldn’t want that to happen to a cavalry troop in a battle (unless it was on the other side, of course). This is a more recent example, from Aqueduct in the US:
Lots of horses came down even though they were more spread out.
I’m still not in a position to strongly argue that close order was impossible, but if it could be achieved, I don’t think it was necessarily a good idea. Apart from the risk of horse accidents, it would get in the way of using swords and lances as shock weapons. It’s much better to go through the enemy and stab them with a point than it is to crash your horses into them.
Comment by Gene Hughson — 3:25 pm, 10 October 2012 [permanent link to this comment]
I would argue that “how close can you keep charging horses?” is less the issue than “how fast can you charge and maintain order?”. In everything I’ve ever read, maintaining unit cohesion is key for battle cavalry (the heavies). As you noted, charging would still lead to formations dispersing (as a result of either contact or pursuit), but as the Union Brigade proved at Waterloo, that’s when the unit becomes vulnerable. Close formations inhibiting high speed would not be a negative, but a plus in this case. Light cavalry tactics, would of course differ from their heavier brethren, their traditional focus on the battle field being pursuit rather than combat.
I must admit to finding the emphasis on ‘velocity’ in the the 1799 and 1863 manuals a bit puzzling. As you have well established, there’s nothing to be gained in an actual collision (which is where velocity would be of use). Velocity would also be of use to troopers from the mid-19th century on (which makes use of their experiences somewhat problematic) due to the increases in firepower and range, but that’s a different matter.
The 1799 manual is also a bit contradictory in that, while it cautions against closing up at the instant of the charge, it also emphasizes maintaining formation (“…the gallop increased as much as the body can bear in good order” and “…the men particularly attentive in keeping up to and dressing to their standard”). The distances between files listed on page 4 range are touching of boot tops (close files), 6 inches between boot tops (loose files), and the width of a horse between boot tops (open files). It claims that the loose files are used for moving in formation and open files are used for dismounting and exercise.
I’d also dispute that a collision is inevitable under Warnery’s scenarios. The two formations can stop at the point of contact. Charges against formed infantry that maintained cohesion normally resulted in cavalry formations either maneuvering around them or stopping and retreating. I see no reason to believe it wouldn’t be the same cavalry on cavalry.
Comment by Gavin Robinson — 7:07 pm, 10 October 2012 [permanent link to this comment]
I definitely agree that there would be a trade-off between speed and cohesion but I don’t think that one is obviously better than the other. Either could potentially intimidate the enemy into running away, but each has its pros and cons. Lower speeds mean less chance of losing control of your men but also more time under fire and more time for the enemy to react.
If you can maintain a tight formation, you can’t thread the enemy and have to stop when you get there, which throws away all the momentum that you’ve gained in the charge. This would actually be an advantage for 16th century reiters against lancers because the heavy lance depended entirely on momentum and was no use in close combat, whereas pistols were most effective in close combat at a standstill and got their momentum from the powder, not from the horse. This could be what La Noue was really getting at when he said that reiters could overthrow lancers. I suspect that when men-at-arms charged each other, they threaded by mutual consent. I forgot to mention this in the post, but I think another double standard in La Noue is that the glass windows in the haie are supposed to be there because lances don’t work without them.
I would have thought that 18th century/Napoleonic cuirassiers had their options open because if they didn’t make the enemy run away, their armour would be an advantage when fighting at a standstill or threading at speed. The light/heavy distinction becomes very problematic if we take a long view. I’ll discuss this in another post when I eventually pull everything together, but it seems to me that the crucial variable is how much armour the cavalry are wearing. If neither side is armoured at all then the size of horses and men shouldn’t make much difference in combat (leading me to suspect that the distinction between say light and heavy dragoons could be based on a fallacy and that all heavy cavalry did was eat up more fodder than was necessary, but I may be unconsciously channelling Lewis Nolan there!).
For me the significant thing about the 1799 manual is that it seems to admit that the horses move independently of each other and can’t or shouldn’t be rigidly joined together. Although it stresses that the horses still have to move at the same speed, it implies that this is something that takes effort and won’t automatically follow from a tight formation like La Noue and Vernon seemed to suggest.
“I’d also dispute that a collision is inevitable under Warnery’s scenarios.”
I agree that they could and would stop in reality. This bit was more of a thought experiment about what would have to happen if everything that Warnery said should happen in an ideal charge did happen. He wanted them to close at a full gallop and never explicitly said that they would or should stop. If they did stop then the sword blows would be much less terrible than they could have been if they threaded at speed.
The other question is how close and/or fast can horses get before they start to trip each other up? I don’t have a definitive answer to that, but it seems to me that a shallow line strung out with lots of gaps in it would be much safer than the deep, tight formation that La Noue wanted.
Comment by Tiberius Clausewitz Drusus Nero Germanicus — 2:35 pm, 11 October 2012 [permanent link to this comment]
The paradox here is that the deep, tight formation described in La Noue is far from being strictly a Renaissance thing. There’s no shortage of accounts describing medieval men-at-arms marching and charging in tight formations (the usual trope being that an object thrown at them could not fall to the ground without hitting a man or horse), and a Sienese witness in the 14th century marvelled at the solidity of a German mercenary formation that rode and wheeled around with the fluidity of a flock of birds. The cavalry wedges described in several late 15th-century German accounts are also exceedingly tight and deep, and has been proposed as a conceptual predecessor to the later reiter/Cuirassier “columns.”
Of course, there’s more than one way in which a deep cavalry formation could get through the enemy. It has been proposed (http://www.battlefieldanomalies.com/eylau/05_the_charge.htm) that the French cavalry at Eylau (1809) attacked the Russians in the matter of a battering ram, boring through the opposing formation at a walk and essentially knocking aside anyone who stood in their path. This appears particularly apt for the late-medieval German wedges since after all pushing things aside is what a wedge does.
Reiter/Cuirassier blocks–and probably earlier deep medieval formations–appear to have been more in the nature of very deep lines rather than full-fledged columns, however, and this is where the fun begins. If you see any video of a sufficiently large cavalry charge, you’ll see that any line soon breaks up into roughly wedge-shaped clumps (even Tolkien mentions this in Lord of the Rings!), and the longer the charge goes before hitting the enemy (if at all) the more pronounced this “wedging” becomes. Most examples show the cavalry line charging at the gallop but I suspect even a charge at the trot in classic reiter/Cuirassier style would cause this kind of clumping if the charge covere snough ground. This is why I believe that enough room will eventually open up in La Noue’s deep blocks as the squadron breaks up into deep wedge-columns that channel incoming enemies into the narrow gaps between them. On the other hand, if the gaps didn’t open up (especially if the charge travelled no great distance), so what? The opponents would have seen this, become unnerved, and wheeled away before contact. Either way the pistol-armed chaps got what they wanted.
Or maybe you’re just over-analysing the meaning of “shock.” Obviously it worked somehow. Exactly how we may never know unless massed cavalry once again becomes a force to be reckoned with on the battlefield. ;)
Comment by Tiberius Clausewitz Drusus Nero Germanicus — 2:45 pm, 11 October 2012 [permanent link to this comment]
In short, I agree with your premise that “close order” wasn’t all that close, but I think it could still be pretty close indeed (especially if we allow the formation to develop non-uniform density as the charge proceeds).
But frankly I’m adding this second comment because I realised that I forgot to give you the link to the best rendition of a massed cavalry charge that I’ve seen to date in motion-picture form:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOl4piWh2eA
Comment by Hwiccee — 3:02 pm, 11 October 2012 [permanent link to this comment]
As previously mentioned I really think that you need to look at later practice, particularly from the late 17th and early/mid 18th century, to get rid of some of the strange ideas you have.
Sources from this period say that the objective of a charge is to force the enemy to give way before contact and not to knock the over or whatever. Actual collisions would be rare and most fighting was one sided. i.e. Usually one side ran before contact or broke ranks and the side that gave way basically had little chance to do much.
By the late 17th century, and possibly earlier as I have no information on that time, the key elements to a successful charge were close order/cohesion and speed of attack. At this time some still thought that fire during the charge or as part of the charge, which was often called ‘caracoling’ in English sources, was also useful. So ‘caracoling’, not that this was anything like real caracoling, was sometimes used in this period but was dying out generally.
I should say here that ‘shock’ is not an absolute but a relative factor. The important thing is to be more ‘shocking’ than the other guy. The more ‘shocking’ you are the more chance there is that they will give way and not you. But we are nearly always talking about improving you chance of success and not guaranteeing it. Obviously other factors like experience, numbers, etc, were also important but cohesion/close order and speed were the elements of tactics that were the most likely to bring the other guy to give way.
This seems to have been generally understood by the late 17th/early 18th century but the problem was they hadn’t really articulated/appreciated it and didn’t know how to actually use this/do this in practice. So you could say some went for high speed but with low cohesion/order (the French), some went for low speed with high cohesion/order (Germans) and various other compromises. The British/Dutch used medium speed and medium cohesion for example. But these were all compromises and generally of similar effectiveness.
As previously mentioned the introduction of true shock tactics came with Charles XII of Sweden. Charles realised that what was needed was what we could call high speed/high cohesion/close order. He aimed to have his cavalry charge at the full gallop and with the individual troopers locked literally knee to knee. This was not always achieved in practice but the key was not for it to be perfect, although obviously that would be good, but that it was better, more ‘shocking’, than the opponent.
Again as previously mentioned Frederick the Great later on spread this idea and also the methods to do it around Europe. So by the mid 18th century everyone knew that what you needed for a successful charge was high speed and as much cohesion/close order as possible. In practise by this time this meant you kept as close as possible and concentrated on going as fast as possible while keeping control. This is why the emphasis on speed in later manuals and high cohesion is a given. But the key is how your speed/cohesion compare to the other guy as that is what is going to give you the best chance of getting him to give way.
Comment by Gavin Robinson — 6:20 pm, 11 October 2012 [permanent link to this comment]
My main target here is really John Vernon. I have my suspicions about him but can’t prove anything satisfactorily.
Clausewitz: I was mostly following a Clifford Rogers essay for medieval charges but maybe it’s more complicated than he made out. Could it be that tight, deep formations were an attempt to compensate for lack of skill/training with the lance against opponents who were better at it? That would fit with what I said about reiters versus lancers in my previous comment.
Pushing through at a walk or slow trot is a safe way of colliding, but presumably is only valuable if you need to get to an objective on the far side of the enemy cavalry. If your aim is only to take out those cavalry, how does it damage them?
The Beersheba photo does seem to support your point about wedging. Whether it is or isn’t the actual battle, it definitely is a line of horses galloping.
There’s no such thing as overanalysing. ;)
That film is really interesting, and looks old enough to not be CGI.
Hwiccee: I don’t have strange ideas. I’m trying to analyse what may be strange ideas in early-modern texts.
“Sources from this period say”
Can you cite some of them please? It would help me to take them into account if you tell me exactly which ones support your argument.
“This seems to have been generally understood by the late 17th/early 18th century but the problem was they hadn’t really articulated/appreciated it”
That seems contradictory to me. If no-one had articulated it, how can we know they understood it? The texts I’ve looked at so far are surprisingly vague about what was supposed to happen at the end of a charge and what the point was. That leaves open the possibilities that they did understand what they were doing, or that they had all sorts of weird misconceptions.
If there’s one thing that this series of posts proves, it’s that ‘shock’ means different things to different people, and often it’s not clear which one of those things is meant. That makes it hard to talk about ‘true’ shock. I’m increasingly thinking that shock isn’t a useful term and that it’s better to be more specific: intimidation, point charges, and horse collisions are probably more useful terms.
In the long-term hypothetical narrative that I’m developing, Charles XII would be about the right time for the return of point charges, but he and Frederick the Great are prime targets for Whiggish Great Man history and fanboy hero worship, so I’m being cautious.
Comment by Tiberius Clausewitz Drusus Nero Germanicus — 8:29 pm, 11 October 2012 [permanent link to this comment]
My main target here is really John Vernon. I have my suspicions about him but can’t prove anything satisfactorily.
He’s funny, really. His “knee behind knee” charge sounds like the theory behind Charles XII’s cavalry charge in the Swedish “wedge” (in reality a very deep, tight line kinked in the middle), but too closely-packed for any prior cavalry drill that we know of. In fact, my understanding of how La Noue’s deep block could thread through and past enemy formations requires a bit more space to informally jostle up from knee-to-knee (or a slightly looser interval) into smaller knee-behind-knee or even nose-to-crupper columns. Otherwise it’s a bit hard to see why late 16th- and early 17th-century cavalry commanders like Henri IV would insist so much on using the pistol as a substitute for the sword or lance (as opposed to being a ranged/missile weapon).
But that’s just about as far as it goes. Vernon’s notion of firing the carbine and then the pistol and then drawing the sword all in a single charge is pretty bizarre, and the closest things I can find to it are later romantic reimaginings of the Finnish hakkapeliitta. I wonder if he was writing for the wargaming or roleplaying crowd three and a half centuries ahead since these kinds of people are the ones most likely to be obsessed with loading up their units/characters with multiple weapons and insisting that they had to be able to use all of those weapons somehow.
Could it be that tight, deep formations were an attempt to compensate for lack of skill/training with the lance against opponents who were better at it?
That’s one theory, and in fact the Germans were briefly (perhaps in the early 12th century?) known to be awkward horsemen but fearsome fighters when dismounted. Similarly, the later 15th-century wedge has been theorised as a device to put the well-armoured minority at the point and edges of the formation while the less well-equipped majority bulked it out from the middle. But the funny thing is the records we have about the late-medieval wedge speak of their use by Germans (after a fashion) against other Germans (after a fashion), so I don’t know whether the difference in skill would have been that pronounced since the German lack of skill in the individual handling of the lance was usually mentioned as part of a comparison with the French.
Pushing through at a walk or slow trot is a safe way of colliding, but presumably is only valuable if you need to get to an objective on the far side of the enemy cavalry. If your aim is only to take out those cavalry, how does it damage them?
I’m not that clear on this either, since the clearer accounts/interpretations of the deep column/wedge tend to be about its interaction against infantry. What we do know of the late-medieval wedge’s interaction against other cavalry (largely from Philipp von Seldeneck’s manual, sometimes regarded to be a largely theoretical work) seems to indicate that the wedge was just the main part in a sequence of attacks designed to hammer repeatedly at the enemy’s front and flanks to wear them down. A little like Napoleonic skirmishers and assault columns, in fact, only much more complicated and thus potentially a bit dodgier in the implementation department.
That film is really interesting, and looks old enough to not be CGI.
Real French Republican Guards charging according to drills derived from real 19th-century regulations. Beats CGI anytime. :) Too bad the (Chinese) PLA doesn’t appear to have made or released comparable videos despite maintaining a horse cavalry arm well into the 1970s or even the 1980s.
Sources from this period say that the objective of a charge is to force the enemy to give way before contact and not to knock the over or whatever.
That may be the ultimate objective, but how do you achieve it? By going at the enemy as if you’re literally going to knock them over. The distinction is largely semantic to the actual cavalryman in the line and I don’t think I’ve read any manual that spelled it out clearly or openly before Ardant du Picq’s. If you know of any 17th-century manual that explicitly states cavalry should merely scare the enemy off rather than seeking actual physical contact with them, name it (or, better, quote it) here and I’ll be happy to go check.
Comment by Stephen — 11:54 am, 15 October 2012 [permanent link to this comment]
I have a distinct memory of having read, about twenty-five years ago, a book in the Cambridge University Library that was a translation from the German of conversations, or communications, between two cavalry officers: one older, a veteran of the Napoleonic wars, and one younger. A dip into the Newton catalogue suggests it may have been “Letters on Cavalry” by Prinz zu Hohenlohe Ingelfingen.
Whatever the title, I recall part of the content. The older officer, speaking of instructions to charge “knee to knee”, says that in his regiment they went further than that, charging knee behind knee.
Surely, says the younger, that must have meant your dressing went to pieces, with each line of horses snaking forwards and backwards?
Very possibly, says the veteran, but I don’t remember any drillmaster riding at the flank of the line to check, we had other things to worry about. Point was that, viewed from the front, where the enemy were, we presented an absolutely solid block of cavalry coming straight at them.
But surely there must have been a terrible collision when they met your charge?
Well, you know, that never troubled us, the French didn’t stay to find out what would happen.
Can anyone confirm if I have remembered this approximately right?
Comment by Hwiccee — 8:23 pm, 15 October 2012 [permanent link to this comment]
Hwiccee: I don’t have strange ideas. I’m trying to analyse what may be strange ideas in early-modern texts.
Sorry this blog is very interesting but I usually don’t have time to participate much and always don’t have time to take time to post fully. I didn’t necessarily mean strange as in bad – a fresh look at this theme is certainly needed. More like strange as in unconventional.
“Sources from this period say”
Can you cite some of them please? It would help me to take them into account if you tell me exactly which ones support your argument.
I am sorry I really don’t have time to write the book here that would be needed to explain properly. So I have tried to provide an overview. If you have specific question I will try to dig up some sources.
But bear in mind that just like in the earlier period the sources are often obscure and never give a clear ‘this is what happened’ type statement. You have to search round for scraps of information, usually in non English sources, to construct a picture of what is happening. In short things are just as complicated as earlier on.
The only good news (or at least I hope it will be) is that part of the reason I don’t have time to write a book on this here is that I am very slowly working on writing about this.
“This seems to have been generally understood by the late 17th/early 18th century but the problem was they hadn’t really articulated/appreciated it”
That seems contradictory to me. If no-one had articulated it, how can we know they understood it?
They acted in ways that show that they understood the idea and the sources contain hints along this line. But there is no straight forward written x, y, z type explanation and therefore alternative explanations exist – hence the “seems to have been generally understood”. I strongly suspect from the material you have posted and other sources that the same is true earlier in the 17th century. But I know relatively little about this earlier period.
If this idea was not generally understood then one of the consequences of this would be that earlier thinkers were idiots and Charles XII/Frederick the Great were total geniuses. i.e they came up with something completely new rather than building on existing ideas.
The texts I’ve looked at so far are surprisingly vague about what was supposed to happen at the end of a charge and what the point was.
I am afraid this doesn’t change with the period of study. It seems most likely that the reason for this is that ‘every one knew’ at the time and simply not worth mentioning. But what information we have strongly suggests that -
“My intention is to force the enemy to break by the speed of our charge before it comes to hand-to-hand fighting” – Frederick the Great, 1754
and
“when two bodies of cavalry charge one another, it almost always happens that one party flees before the other can meet it. Sword blows are dealt only during the pursuit” – Mirabeau, 1788
If there’s one thing that this series of posts proves, it’s that ‘shock’ means different things to different people, and often it’s not clear which one of those things is meant. That makes it hard to talk about ‘true’ shock.
I would agree to an extent here when talking about sources. But I think that the concept of ‘shock’ is understood and basically as noted above. ‘True’ shock being the completed idea which emerged in the 1st half of the 18th century. But as previously argued various ‘half’ shock tactics were used earlier and the key was comparison.
In the long-term hypothetical narrative that I’m developing, Charles XII would be about the right time for the return of point charges, but he and Frederick the Great are prime targets for Whiggish Great Man history and fanboy hero worship, so I’m being cautious.
What is a ‘point charge’?
I would agree that there is a lot of rubbish around about this pair but I am afraid not here. There were clearly minor variations in what exactly was done after C12/Frederick but their principles were the basis of all cavalry charges after their time. All armies after their time adopted their tactics and there was no serious challenge to their way of conducting a charge.
Unless your idea that the concept of what a charge was supposed to do and how to make it more effective was unknown before C12/Frederick then that is not all of the story. Frederick is on record as saying he was just copying C12′s ideas. C12 fully developed ideas that his father (Charles XI of Sweden) had introduced during the war of the 1670′s. While C11 was just building on earlier ideas, etc.
Many commentators attempt to put forward X or Y as the founder of ‘shock’ tactics. But that is often more a matter of trying to find a point in the development of these tactics that enough of the important factors had been included to call it that. They represent landmarks on the path to the true/full shock of C12/Frederick. The real founder of ‘shock’ was the nameless first person who thought to make their cavalry charge faster or better order than the other guy. Even if this was just going at a slightly quicker walk or forming a basic line.
Comment by Edwin Groot — 2:01 pm, 16 October 2012 [permanent link to this comment]
Cavalry has been around for a very long time, isnt’t there a clue somewhere in ancient or medieval sources?
Comment by Gavin Robinson — 4:16 pm, 16 October 2012 [permanent link to this comment]
Lots of interesting things to discuss here but I won’t have time to reply properly until next week. Just some quick points:
It would actually be very good for me if there were definite examples of early-modern cavalrymen saying that a charge is supposed to intimidate the enemy into running away so I’m trying to be especially sceptical and rigorous, which is why it might look like I’m arguing against a position I actually agree with.
I don’t recognize Stephen’s example, but I hope someone else can supply the reference.
By ‘point charge’ I mean attacking with the point of the lance or sword so that the momentum of the horse gives it more force. You have to thread for this to work, so if Charles XII wanted a very tight formation he probably wasn’t trying to do this.
Sources tend to get worse the further back you go. I seem to remember the Rule of the Templars wanted a very tight formation.
Comment by Tiberius Clausewitz Drusus Nero Germanicus — 6:24 am, 22 October 2012 [permanent link to this comment]
I don’t think there’s any example before the end of the 17th century (of manuals spelling out explicitly that the cavalry charge is meant to scare the enemy off). It’s Occam’s razor at work. If the way to make the enemy run away is to go at them as if one really intended to engage them in hand-to-hand combat, why tell the men to do anything else? Telling them that they’re just there to scare the enemy might be counterproductive because it could reduce their resolution if the enemy wasn’t visibly wavering in the face of their charge.
Comment by Michael — 12:12 am, 5 December 2012 [permanent link to this comment]
In response to your opinion on horse crashing into horse, I direct your attention to the following video. Please watch 1:05-1:09.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spPuacIGnkE#t=1m05s